This is a reach IMO. I think the last step is because there's a subsection of pornography that is very illegal and if you were to start processing payments for "very illegal thing" then you're liable as you're both providing service to an illegal enterprise and profiting via service fees. Banning incest/beastiality/etc is just an image thing. Mindgeek (pornhub etc) can't process ANY credit card payments, and they're one of the largest websites in the world. Subscribestar isn't the answer either, as someone mentioned it already but they're a timebomb - they're small now but when payment processors take notice, they'll have to kiss the ring too.
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, and they're a respected and decades old magazine.
One tactic the lobbying groups have is to campaign on issues that most people would agree with - no ********** on websites like Pornhub, age gates, etc., but with the ultimate goal of getting passing legislation to get rid of all porn.
"Exodus Cry does not have a legal agenda to ban all pornography; however, it does maintain that porn use is a detriment to public health for many reasons, including that it normalizes and eroticizes acts of sexual assault and child sexual abuse. "
From their own material, emphasis mine. (I.e. it's not our mission statement, but it that happens, GREAT.)
This is an IMMENSELY powerful group.
From their own list of their notable milestones:
• In 2020, Exodus Cry was credited with prompting Pornhub to delete approximately 10 million videos from its website
• In 2020,
Exodus Cry put pressure on Mastercard to cease doing business with Pornhub
• In 2021, xHamster, a major competitor to Pornhub, began implementing significant changes to its website, shifting its entire business model in response to Exodus Cry
• In 2021, Exodus Cry called on Roku, the number one TV/video streaming platform in the U.S. As a result, Roku ceased hosting all porn channels.
• In 2022, the CEO and COO of Pornhub’s parent company, MindGeek, resigned from the company after leading it for ten years because of Exodus Cry's work.
“Exodus Cry is among the most strategic thinkers in this movement! From the beginning, its leadership has boldly confronted the roots of sexual harm, including pornography, sex buyers, objectification, prostitution, and more. It is unwilling to retreat from proclaiming the truth despite the opposition hurled at the organization, or the reticence of the general public to listen. Its persistence, passion, and hope has paid off as we are seeing great damage to the sexual exploitation industry largely thanks to Exodus Cry’s work.”
And you should note that they include girls doing OnlyFans as "prostitution", and any girl using sex to make money as "being exploited". If the woman objects, her mind has sadly been warped by exposure to pornography.
Look, the kink I'm mad is banned on Patreon is incest. I don't really have a care about the loli or bestiality stuff.
But I think it is worth noting that fictional loli content, as well as fictional bestiality stories, etc. are legal in much of the US. (A few nanny states not-withstanding.) Same for FICTIONAL incest. A creator should be able to create fictional works and make money off of them for any of these topics if they so choose.
I mean, if Game of Thrones was a NSFW game made by someone, it couldn't be on Patreon. But it can be a TV show everyone in the country watches and talks about with their co-workers.
I think it's just a matter of time before someone with enough money & backing creates an alternative to all this, but the fact that someone hasn't already just shows how difficult an undertaking it would be. Some kind of crypto-based deposit site could work, but the short version is most people just won't bother. Swapping cash to crypto is too much work, and with all the KYC people are probably just too lazy to jump through all the hoops. I can't blame them tbh, but if more people took the time to learn the basics then they'd realise that's something that really can't be blocked and censored. Oh well.
I hope you're right, but it's worth noting the uphill battle that would face, since once it became known well enough, groups like Exodus Cry would lobby governments to shutdown something they would claim is just a front for illegal activity. "Why use a service like this when legal and open means of payment are available?" they would cry, leaving out that it would be because of their own efforts to make sure there were no alternatives.
