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Gato negro

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I have to say this. I've never felt this hurt in any NTR focused game before. And I must say that in the NTR games I played, the MC was tied to the chair and forced to watch his wife being fucked. but the ntr in this game is complete nonsense. No matter what combination of options you choose, your wife is still cheating on you. And this form of cheating is not by force or to maintain a ruse. Our wife is literally cheating on us emotionally. It's not nice. At the same time, I must say that I have played all the NTR focused games released on f95zone so far. But none of them broke my heart as much as the deception in this game. And we can't do anything to prevent this. The game developer should reconsider the story. Or at least it should make cheating preventable. By the way, I like ntr very much. Don't misunderstand my words. I think those who play the game understand very well what I mean. but i still fapped.
 

Couto25

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I have to say this. I've never felt this hurt in any NTR focused game before. And I must say that in the NTR games I played, the MC was tied to the chair and forced to watch his wife being fucked. but the ntr in this game is complete nonsense. No matter what combination of options you choose, your wife is still cheating on you. And this form of cheating is not by force or to maintain a ruse. Our wife is literally cheating on us emotionally. It's not nice. At the same time, I must say that I have played all the NTR focused games released on f95zone so far. But none of them broke my heart as much as the deception in this game. And we can't do anything to prevent this. The game developer should reconsider the story. Or at least it should make cheating preventable. By the way, I like ntr very much. Don't misunderstand my words. I think those who play the game understand very well what I mean. but i still fapped.
Have you tried suggesting wife not to sacrifice her dignity?? Try that....Clara will die that will end romantic route if you are looking for it. That way you will stop the wife from cheating and your heart will not be broken.

But if you're playing after suggesting wife to sacrifice her dignity, that means get ready for wife cheating or NTR...if you keep showing concern about the wife who knows she'll stay when the story gets finished...but everything else Clara is doing is not to blow alan cover or putting him in danger as far as it has shown.
 
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Lol I literally made multiple posts with more than enough counterarguments which again you and the rest conveniently keep not mentioning it. I don't want to waste time quoting them again cause you and the rest would just keep recycling the same boring arguments again.

Clara had already gone over the edge the moment she had to sacrifice her dignity again and again. There is no point in beating a dead horse.

Ah yes. The "She was all alone, drank wine, saw a kiss, felt betrayed and didn't confront them cause had 2 -4 sexual actions , wanted to fuck and ended up banging Leon" in a nutshell.

Calm, calculated character who reads a room and hasn't let her lust overtake her in situations prior to this, loses her mind with one kiss from the dude who still has questionable past with her boyfriend.
How many times has Clara sacrificed her dignity? It happens from 2 to 4 times, depending on your actions. If it was random girl at university - cool. Super secret agent - meh. We just read the same stuff differently.

I still don't get why you want to keep guessing Leon is the bad guy when things couldn't be more clearer. Even the banner is showing that to your face and hints were dropped multiple times in the story. It was never meant to be a surprise. It was only meant to make us wonder what Leon's goals are.
Because of adding extra layers to the plot. Another typical example - I won't even put a movie. The most basic one, which everyone played: Being A Dik. What is the question that players ask themselves when the major characters are introduced? "Who I want to be with? Do I want to be with one or with as many as possible?" And what happens then - we get more questions - "What's Chad's secret? What happened between Bella and her husband? Who's the one stealing the laptop? Why this, why that?"
These questions are the reasons why the story keeps going and why people jumped on this game, not Bella's boobs or Camilla's butt.
And yes, the banner) Never heard of red herrings, okay)

Also no matter how much you make arguments, what happened isn't going to change and the dev will do as he wishes. So why not leave alone the fans of this game instead of wasting our time in this thread? We get that you don't like it and STRONGLY stated your opinion multiple times. Is it too much to ask to respect this thread?
Oh yes, feedback is such a bad thing! If you come to the restaurant and get decent soup, which is a bit too spicy - you tell about that to the waiter. Next time you come and soup is not as spicy as it was before. One could say "don't order the soup then". The issue is - if one client says that soup is spicy - meh, whatever. If it's a dozen of people - cooks start to make adjustments.

Using a logical mistake - to bring up an argument which I haven't even brought up) "We get that you don't like it" as the game) Yeah, cool, buddy. Good luck finding the quote)

"Haters, haters everywhere, you don't understand anything, leave the thread" - says the guy who replies to every other lad in here.
Nevertheless, I'm tired of talking to a wall. Cheers.
 
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truthpolice

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Ah yes. The "She was all alone, drank wine, saw a kiss, felt betrayed and didn't confront them cause had from 1 to 3 sexual actions depending on the playthrough, wanted to fuck and ended up banging Leon" in a nutshell.

Calm, calculated character who reads a room and hasn't let her lust overtake her in situations prior to this, loses her mind with one kiss from the dude who still has questionable past with her boyfriend.
How many times has Clara sacrificed her dignity? It happens from 2 to 4 times, depending on your actions. If it was random girl at university - cool. Super secret agent - meh. We just read the same stuff differently.



Because of adding extra layers to the plot. Another typical example - I won't even put a movie. The most basic one, which everyone played: Being A Dik. What is the question that players ask themselves when the major characters are introduced? "Who I want to be with? Do I want to be with one or with as many as possible?" And what happens then - we get more questions - "What's Chad's secret? What happened between Bella and her husband? Who's the one stealing the laptop? Why this, why that?"
These questions are the reasons why the story keeps going and why people jumped on this game, not Bella's boobs or Camilla's butt.
And yes, the banner) Never heard of red herrings, okay)



Oh yes, feedback is such a bad thing! If you come to the restaurant and get decent soup, which is a bit too spicy - you tell about that to the waiter. Next time you come and soup is not as spicy as it was before. One could say "don't order the soup then". The issue is - if one client says that soup is spicy - meh, whatever. If it's a dozen of people - cooks start to make adjustments.

Using a logical mistake - to bring up an argument which I haven't even brought up) "We get that you don't like it" as the game) Yeah, cool, buddy. Good luck finding the quote)

"Haters, haters everywhere, you don't understand anything, leave the thread" - says the guy who replies to every other lad in here.
Nevertheless, I'm tired of talking to a wall. Cheers.
This isn't a dating simulator like being a dik. At least compare games that fall in the same genre if you want to compare. Understanding a character's mentality throughout the development of plot is not a skill every player has.

Feedback can be given but redundant feedbacks just make your point even more stale and serve nothing.

Anyways I am also tired talking to a wall. Goodbye (y)
 

Moisthammer

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one of the best and most believable NTR scenes I've seen and people are still crying. Get a grip.
WHAT!? Did Bill Burr write this comment? Ludicrous. As soon as Leon and his story was introduced, "Ya, that mofo is conspiring to give Clara that beef stick." Conveniently, Leon was always there to "assist" with Mr. X's task. Ooooookay, super predictable. The ONLY way this is believable is if you watch Pornhub for the plot.
 

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I seriously think that Anna could be the "X"... because she wanted to get close to Alan and she cannot compete with Clara on skills so she's trying to give tasks for Clara to cheat on Alan so that she can get close to Alan.

Just in case "if" Leon is just acting to be "honest" or he is working as double spy for spectre too....or his sister/father hand is involved in helping Leon with spectre....X knows about Leon's sister too (not explained in the story yet on why he got angered when Leon got the message from X that he will harm/expose his sister so what is the role of Leon's sister??...Till now Alan hated Leon's father and Leon because of what they did to them and that's what Alan told Clara but no clue about Leon's sister even Clara was surprised when she heard that he has a sister too ) ...so X got both Clara and Leon asses.

Will look forward to the next update of the story irrespective of NTR arguments. It felt a little early but to be honest I liked it that it is shown because atleast "sex" is not kept as a tool / hype for the desperation point on this game unlike in other games where they keep teasing the audience and keep giving blue balls to the gamers for years.

There is so much left to look forward to like whether Alan remain honest to Clara or he will go for Anna? Whether Anna is a con or not (till now we just know she put all her efforts to take care of Alan more than her own work and even more than clara but why?) ? Whether this new chat box app and X are being controlled by same person or X just hacked into chat box giving more cheating tasks to Clara and Leon? And yea who is con working for spectre? What all tasks X will give to Clara to corrupt her and to what level?? Will Alan and Clara reunite and come clean after the mission even after sacrificing their dignity?? Will Alan accept Clara back and same goes to Clara if someone play cheating route from Alan POV too ?

So many unanswered questions still left in the story to reveal..I am not gonna spoil my excitement towards the mystery of the story just because of one sex scene...there might be many scenes left on the way... Whenever there is no scene in any NTR/Slow corruption games and developer kept giving continuous blue balls to the audience in every update for years, even after regular demand of sex scene from people, there are fans supporting that game discussing about how the story will move forward and the plot even if it doesn't have anything... no story at all..in those game there's only one suspense going on whether the wife /husband cheat or not in next update and with whom or the developer will still give blue balls?

Here in this game the developer is not trying to milk the audience as far as scenes are concerned. He is giving the scenes and moving the main plot of the story forward with climax ...He has an actual story in his mind unlike other games of same genre, where there is no story or suspense at all beside milking audience by giving them blue balls in the name of whether or not there will be a scene in next update for years....they kept creating additional side stories with side character, that has nothing to do with the main plot just to delay sex. I don't have any complaint about this one and I am looking forward to the upcoming updates. It's the story that defines the game afterall and not the ability to hold scene for years unnecessarily ... Being a dik game got sex scene from the first update itself and story is still moving forward and people still love it but that's another genre. Yes this is the first game of this genre where there will be sex with the suspense still left in the story. So will see how it goes and how it will end.
 
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I seriously think that Anna could be the "X"... because she wanted to get close to Alan and she cannot compete with Clara on skills so she's trying to give tasks for Clara to cheat on Alan so that she can get close to Alan.

Just in case "if" Leon is just acting to be "honest" or he is working as double spy for spectre too....or his sister/father hand is involved in helping Leon with spectre....X knows about Leon's sister too (not explained in the story yet on why he got angered when Leon got the message from X that he will harm/expose his sister so what is the role of Leon's sister??...Till now Alan hated Leon's father and Leon because of what they did to them and that's what Alan told Clara but no clue about Leon's sister even Clara was surprised when she heard that he has a sister too ) ...so X got both Clara and Leon asses.

Will look forward to the next update of the story irrespective of NTR arguments. It felt a little early but to be honest I liked it that it is shown because atleast "sex" is not kept as a tool / hype for the desperation point on this game unlike in other games where they keep teasing the audience and keep giving blue balls to the gamers for years.

There is so much left to look forward to like whether Alan remain honest to Clara or he will go for Anna? Whether Anna is a con or not (till now we just know she put all her efforts to take care of Alan more than her own work and even more than clara but why?) ? Whether this new chat box app and X are being controlled by same person or X just hacked into chat box giving more cheating tasks to Clara and Leon? And yea who is spectre? What all tasks X will give to Clara to corrupt her to what level?? Will Alan and Clara reunite and come clean after the mission even after sacrificing their dignity?? will Alan accept Clara back and same goes to Clara if someone play cheating route from Alan POV too ?

So many unanswered questions still left in the story to reveal..I am not gonna spoil my excitement towards the mystery of the story just because of one sex scene...there might be many on the way... Whenever there is no scene in any NTR/Slow corruption games and developer keep giving continuous blue balls and milking the audience in every update for years even after regular demand of sex scene from people, there are fans supporting that game discussing about the story will move forward and the plot even if it doesn't have anything much no story at all..in those game there's only one story whether the wife /husband cheat or not in next update or the developer will still give blue balls

Here in this game the developer is not trying to milk the audience as far as scenes are concerned. He is giving the scenes and moving the main plot of the story forward too with climax...He has an actual story in his mind unlike other games of same genre, where there is no story or suspense at all beside milking audience by giving them blue balls for years and creating additional side stories with side character , that has nothing to do with the main plot. I don't have any complaint and I am looking forward to the upcoming updates. It's the story that defines the game afterall and not the ability to hold scene for years unnecessarily ... Being a dik game got sex scene from the first update itself and story is still moving forward and people still love it but that's another genre. Yes this is the first game of this genre where there will be sex with the suspense still left in the story. So will see how it goes and how it will end.
This is it. Ntr is just a catalyst but the most important plot points we have yet to see. We finally get a ntr game with a story rather than a hype/blueball simulator.
 
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Well... that’s what the ntr story is, even though it all happened without logic “because of her husband’s kiss on someone else, she immediately fucked with a person who considers her husband an enemy,” but nothing can be done. :)

It turns out that Leon won again against Alan...? :sleep:

Now the only question is, what's the next story? Clara has three options, the first is to become a hole for the sperm of Leon and his friends (who will sooner or later appear and take advantage of this to further humiliate her, saying that she is now his toy). second, she will find out all of Leon’s machinations and will now look for a way to destroy him, but what about her husband, right? this does not forgive, in order to forgive this, Alan needs to fuck an Asian girl, then an eye for an eye, the rest is up to them to decide whether they want to forgive or not... but part of the blame will be on Clara (some will understand why.)

and the last option, Clara must let her husband go, She will be tormented by her conscience for some time, she will understand how manipulative Leon turned out to be and she will be pressured from all sides... and look at how happy Alan is with an Asian woman or with someone else in the future, and goodbye to her sweet dream (if, of course, Alan forgives her, then everything may be the other way around)

But there is also an alternative option, Alan himself finds out about her wife having sex with his enemy and who his wife works, and at some point Alan will be on his own after breaking up with Clara, and he will begin to delve even more into the cruel world, which will result in Clara at some point they will start to worry about him from afar, and at some point he will suffer and there will be another drama, because it’s also time for Alan to teach his enemy a lesson and all these hints about Leon’s sister are not without reason and can be prepared for the plot of Mc.:unsure:
 
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Couto25

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This is it. Ntr is just a catalyst but the most important plot points we have yet to see. We finally get a ntr game with a story rather than a hype/blueball simulator.
The thing is this is not normal working husband/wife game... they're spy...so if anyone knows the life of spy they're usually ready to die or sacrifice their own dignity to save national interest...nation doesn't take any responsibility of their death if anything happens to them or if their cover is blown even in reality nation will deny. So I can understand why cheating/ntr scene got hate. But it's fine, eventually it would have happened anyways..but by that time probably more than half of the story climax would have been gone over holding just one scene.
 

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Well... that’s what the ntr story is, even though it all happened without logic “because of her husband’s kiss on someone else, she immediately fucked with a person who considers her husband an enemy,” but nothing can be done. :)

It turns out that Leon won again against Alan...? :sleep:

Now the only question is, what's the next story? Clara has three options, the first is to become a hole for the sperm of Leon and his friends (who will sooner or later appear and take advantage of this to further humiliate her, saying that she is now his toy). second, she will find out all of Leon’s machinations and will now look for a way to destroy him, but what about her husband, right? this does not forgive, in order to forgive this, Alan needs to fuck an Asian girl, then an eye for an eye, the rest is up to them to decide whether they want to forgive or not... but part of the blame will be on Clara (some will understand why.)



But there is also an alternative option, Alan himself finds out about her wife having sex with his enemy and who his wife works, and at some point Alan will be on his own after breaking up with Clara, and he will begin to delve even more into the cruel world, which will result in Clara at some point they will start to worry about him from afar, and at some point he will suffer and there will be another drama, because it’s also time for Alan to teach his enemy a lesson and all these hints about Leon’s sister are not without reason and can be prepared for the plot of Mc.:unsure:
This is what NTR means, how the other partner suffer/reacts after knowing that his/her partner cheated on them. There are 2 enemies for Alan as of now...one mission wise (we know whatever Clara is doing is to protect Alan mission wise) and another one is his personal enemy Leon. Have to see how he move forward after this.
 

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This is what NTR means, how the other partner suffer/reacts after knowing that his/her partner cheated on them. There are 2 enemies for Alan as of now...one mission wise (we know whatever Clara is doing is to protect Alan mission wise) and another one is his personal enemy Leon. Have to see how he move forward after this.
Unless, of course, Dev ruin on the plot, as most NTR games do, where after one fuck with the wife, she will already go in a circle with everyone, and the husband will be a loser who is trying to find solace from someone or remain a cuckold. we need a serious plot where Mc already finds out about his wife’s betrayal and the real battle of hostility and regret begins, we also need to see what Alan's reaction will be, will he become even stronger or will he just whine
 
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Unless, of course, Dev ruin on the plot, as most NTR games do, where after one fuck with the wife, she will already go in a circle with everyone, and the husband will be a loser who is trying to find solace from someone or remain a cuckold. we need a serious plot where Mc already finds out about his wife’s betrayal and the real battle of hostility and regret begins, we also need to see what Alan's reaction will be, will he become even stronger or will he just whine
Here husband has an option with Anna..play from his POV for a cheating route too. That's the main issue I think most of the time. Where one play as faithful husband and asking for wife to hold on and don't do sex...yea play cheating route from both end and see how their thought process works.. Because there will be many renders common in between the story to both faithful and corrupt route and the dialogue in between the renders is as per if they're playing cheating routes. That way you will get to understand the gist or if you will play one as faithful then you might miss on those parts in between like why they're saying that even when you played as faithful...it may happen. Obviously even if there would not had been Leon sex part, Clara would be going in circle anyways to complete the mission and to protect Alan. So it will happen because of X character.... doesn't matter if Leon/alan wanted it to happen or not. You can say for this update Leon worked as opportunistic. Alan still have Anna who's better than clara and caring for him just in case if Anna is not a con...so he will not be a loser.
The problem will come when Anna knows Clara is cheating and gave herself to Alan dedicatedly....and if Alan chose to go back to Clara...Anna will shoot him/clara out of jealousy lol
 

lok34

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It's not so much that it's that a couple of people seem to have missed the point of the game and not read the devs notes.

NTR in full on NTR games is usually the end goal and the breakdown of the couple. Here it's the start of the story. Clara was always going to get fucked but now it's on the player how they react to that and there is a chance to fight back and keep Clara if that's what they want.

There is also the other girl who's involved in all this.

The NTR isn't the end of the MC, it's the start of his story and whether he just accepts it or fights back.
I get that an NTR game is meant to illustrate the breakdown of the couple and the consequences, it just isn't well done.

Clara's character is of a field agent, she's meant to have emotional control. She cheats off of the slightest of incidences, a kiss, and the next day when she faces Alan has gone back to being a stone cold agent.

Not even a wobble in her emotions as she sits across from the love of her life whom she just cheated on.
 

Couto25

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I get that an NTR game is meant to illustrate the breakdown of the couple and the consequences, it just isn't well done.

Clara's character is of a field agent, she's meant to have emotional control. She cheats off of the slightest of incidences, a kiss, and the next day when she faces Alan has gone back to being a stone cold agent.

Not even a wobble in her emotions as she sits across from the love of her life whom she just cheated on.
It's not about slightest of incidents...we know that it was just a kiss...but in clara mind, it might be whole sex. Yea She just saw the kiss part only, what do you expect the wife to do as an agent?? Be a cuckold and enjoy them doing sex lol ? She left as a normal field agent that cannot take anymore . But anyways, yes field agents are like that only. Not letting any emotions disrupt the mission. And Leon took the opportunity.
Anyways, I can understand your frustration because if it would have been a normal household wife and husband story....then these kinds of questions matters...Here they are under cover agents and even a slight reaction of jealousy towards kissing or kicking Anna's ass might blow their cover or ruin the mission and their career as those scene were taking place inside Helix corp employees hotel. That's what my take from the story is..
See Clara is going to be fucked every now and then going ahead depending on what X will demand from her. They just needed a start to show Clara will not stop using her body to complete the mission / for Alan love anymore.
 
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truthpolice

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I get that an NTR game is meant to illustrate the breakdown of the couple and the consequences, it just isn't well done.

Clara's character is of a field agent, she's meant to have emotional control. She cheats off of the slightest of incidences, a kiss, and the next day when she faces Alan has gone back to being a stone cold agent.

Not even a wobble in her emotions as she sits across from the love of her life whom she just cheated on.
If you think she fell because of the kiss, you are far from understanding the main issues of the character. If I could earn a buck for such facepalm moments here, I would be enjoying a bunch of pizzas in last 2 days.
 
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darkslide5006

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That's some hyperbole. You can use the search function and literally find at least 20 better NTR games.
Nah man, lets be real here. What you're saying is an over statement. Tf? Look, jessica oneal started as decent with really good top tier art, but then stoper just pops in here and there ranting he cant deliver.

Same goes for a wife and a mother. Its good, i really like how she's being blackmailed or how disgusted she is when she took a bath in school but not so much contents now cuz of overpromise and under deliver. There is so much going on in the game that they dunno which to focus or sum it seems like.

There is "the office" as well, not exactly NTR where FMC is used to get blackmailed by the boss but turned into a mindless fuck doll in a span of few days, story wise its bad but gail is hot shit and how detailed the renders were she was crying while getting fucked i love those scenes.

Anyway, you know what those have in common? Its that it went down hill after maybe 6-7 updates. Its not something to look forward to anymore as maybe the team creating it lost their shit and just kept going it for the sake of just finishing it not caring if its good or bad.

There is many NTR games here but so far, this corrupted hearts, well, arguably is among the top whoever ntr lovers you ask. They aint wrong tho, cuz if you read all those nonsensical BS from the other VNs/games, you'll notice inconsistencies but i mean that would still depends on the readers as to how much they can tolerate or nah.
 
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