- May 31, 2020
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anyone can give me save file after cafe before get back to asuna father? i igot blackscreen after suguha conversation
RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.36] [浅上藤奶/Fujino]
- May 31, 2020
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the autosave repeat conversation with agil and then suguha come then again blackscreen, im using joiplay btw
Alright just finished up to the first half of the camping trip update (0.36), played the game through for the first time and its alright. Scenes pretty good, main storyline is...passable, gotta turn the brain off for the workarounds for Kirito not finding out about Asuna and Inoda but I mean you gotta do what you gotta do to make the things happen. Wondering when Asuna will turn from seeing her "helping" Inoda as something she wants herself and turns towards maybe feelings of affection instead of out of a sort of obligation cause of the way she is.
Side-stories/characters, couldn't give less than 2 shits about, just nice to see scenes from other SAO girls. Just way too uninteresting compared to at least watching Kirito/Asuna's relationship. Reading through the thread I didn't pick up on how the admin is a real part of the story, aside from the massage part I thought she was just a not real thing, but guess she has a role to play. Dunno how large it'll be.
I like that Asuna and Kirito obviously still love each other, even though Asuna has to be stuck in a NTR world and has this whole savior complex thing going on. Really wonder how she balances that love with what she does in her with Inoda in her mind but again, NTR world mentality. Really frustrating when we get dumb ntr logic between them, but dev does a nice job of bringing it back to kinda loving and nice, though again its through Asuna being pretty okay with things and Kirito being....Kirito. I know the story rests on them not having time to be together but man do I want more lovey-dovey stuff between them, not like one scene between them that half the time shows how inept Kirito is. I'd also rant about Kirito but he's also kinda a victim of the ntr world mentality so what can you do.
I dunno how far we are till the end of the story (if anyone has any insights I'd be curious to know, I don't follow the authors Ci-en page) but I wonder when we're gonna get a "route split" of Asuna going full down into the rabbit hole with Inoda and Liz probably falling too, and we get the classic bad (or good, depends on you) end. Or then the other route, where maybe your still oblivious or whatever, but you fight for your relationship and manage to stop Asuna from going in to deep (ha) and having your happy ending with her. At least I assume there will be a route slip, I dunno what the devs plans are but I hope the end isn't just you cant stop any shit happening and near the end, maybe depending on one/two choices, and get a "I will fight for Asuna~" or a "I get off on this whole Asuna cheating thing". Sucks when stuff is boiled down to like one/two choices at the end (see Fallen Bride Mege) even though I get maybe time restraints/workload stuff. Would love to explore the "full ntr" route or "you actually aren't dumb and save your gf" route. But thats just my two cents. Again dont follow the dev so I might just be crazy, if anyone has any other info I'd love to hear, I'll pick up the game again when its finished. Sometimes I wonder why the fuck I can write a short essay on a goddamn ntr game but here we are, maybe I can lie and just say I can appreciate it for more the the porn. 6/10 I keep for hot scenes and hopefully a nice good ending.
Side-stories/characters, couldn't give less than 2 shits about, just nice to see scenes from other SAO girls. Just way too uninteresting compared to at least watching Kirito/Asuna's relationship. Reading through the thread I didn't pick up on how the admin is a real part of the story, aside from the massage part I thought she was just a not real thing, but guess she has a role to play. Dunno how large it'll be.
I like that Asuna and Kirito obviously still love each other, even though Asuna has to be stuck in a NTR world and has this whole savior complex thing going on. Really wonder how she balances that love with what she does in her with Inoda in her mind but again, NTR world mentality. Really frustrating when we get dumb ntr logic between them, but dev does a nice job of bringing it back to kinda loving and nice, though again its through Asuna being pretty okay with things and Kirito being....Kirito. I know the story rests on them not having time to be together but man do I want more lovey-dovey stuff between them, not like one scene between them that half the time shows how inept Kirito is. I'd also rant about Kirito but he's also kinda a victim of the ntr world mentality so what can you do.
I dunno how far we are till the end of the story (if anyone has any insights I'd be curious to know, I don't follow the authors Ci-en page) but I wonder when we're gonna get a "route split" of Asuna going full down into the rabbit hole with Inoda and Liz probably falling too, and we get the classic bad (or good, depends on you) end. Or then the other route, where maybe your still oblivious or whatever, but you fight for your relationship and manage to stop Asuna from going in to deep (ha) and having your happy ending with her. At least I assume there will be a route slip, I dunno what the devs plans are but I hope the end isn't just you cant stop any shit happening and near the end, maybe depending on one/two choices, and get a "I will fight for Asuna~" or a "I get off on this whole Asuna cheating thing". Sucks when stuff is boiled down to like one/two choices at the end (see Fallen Bride Mege) even though I get maybe time restraints/workload stuff. Would love to explore the "full ntr" route or "you actually aren't dumb and save your gf" route. But thats just my two cents. Again dont follow the dev so I might just be crazy, if anyone has any other info I'd love to hear, I'll pick up the game again when its finished. Sometimes I wonder why the fuck I can write a short essay on a goddamn ntr game but here we are, maybe I can lie and just say I can appreciate it for more the the porn. 6/10 I keep for hot scenes and hopefully a nice good ending.
So the game will have a split but it will be "I get off this whole Asuna cheating thing" and "I am happy my gf is not cheating on me because I know nothing". Also is just two endings so don't expect too much content for each route. The "I get off" ending is probably something you can only get if you get your green bar high enough at the end.
Don't feel bad about writing essays here. Not too many games out there can make people care enough to write essays. But you should probably leave it as a Review instead.
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As a clarification, we don't really know if the game will 'have a split', just that it will have 2 endings. I mentioned this before but the ending-difference could very well we just the very final day/epilogue of the game instead of a whole ass week or something, Fujino hasn't really said anything specific in that regard :O
I gotta say, it's refreshing to see an adequate rating. I agree with King; you should leave it as an actual rating because many people just go to extremes, like 'everything sucks' 1-star or 'I hate Kirito' 5-stars.
Tsk, people are just so unreflective...
On a side note: HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE SUGUHA'S STORY IN PART 2?
When the sad reality hits you that most of the people around not hating on Kirito still only give a shit about Kirito and Asuna but not the others XD (seriously, as part of it for almost a decade, the actual SAO fandom can be as sad/bad as the haters on its biasI gotta say, it's refreshing to see an adequate rating. I agree with King; you should leave it as an actual rating because many people just go to extremes, like 'everything sucks' 1-star or 'I hate Kirito' 5-stars.
Tsk, people are just so unreflective...
On a side note: HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE SUGUHA'S STORY IN PART 2?
)I mean, I'm not too involved for the most part. Even if Suguha's story turns out not to go the direction I personally would appreciate, in the end, it's okay. I just like her unexpected development in Part 2, especially that it also goes as far as she herself turning the tables, not relying on the MC or another man to rescue her, as is often the case. So it would be a waste of potentially telling an original side story in my eyes.When the sad reality hits you that most of the people around not hating on Kirito still only give a shit about Kirito and Asuna but not the others XD (seriously, as part of it for almost a decade, the actual SAO fandom can be as sad/bad as the haters on its bias
Well, as you know I AM invested, but ironically that's not even the part I care or mind about, just the whole uniqueness of Suguha, of all people, being the one who twists the NTR Tropes on their heads when that's normally 'impossible' in such a setting. I personally like it a lot not only 'cause she's my favorite character or because I ship KiriSugu, but because how often she's overlooked in fanworks on top of Canon, she kinda IS the most driven non-Asuna girl of the bunch and legit the one closest to Kirito after her, but practically nobody acknowledges it, and even the author constantly sidelined her in favor of the more popular other main heroines after her arc was over, so seeing her do the 'impossible' here while also seemingly getting what she really wants despite the 'rules of the NTRverse' is great
Eh, just not a fan of the rest of the SAO cast bar Liz just being like "Whelp with no Kirito, guess we just become sluts basically" just in different ways. So literally just Suguha with her liking kirito but also works at brothel, not much to digest on. I mean out of all the side girls she's the best Sinon being the worst, but still I'm not personally invested, props to anyone who does though. But also, hot as fuck scenes so disregard all the stuff above tbhI gotta say, it's refreshing to see an adequate rating. I agree with King; you should leave it as an actual rating because many people just go to extremes, like 'everything sucks' 1-star or 'I hate Kirito' 5-stars.
Tsk, people are just so unreflective...
On a side note: HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE SUGUHA'S STORY IN PART 2?
I mean, to be fair, Liz is basically being set up like that but just way worse, because she's gonna end up completely reversed under INODA and with no agency at all after betraying her friends for her own selfishness XD If anything, SUGUHA is the one with the most 'interesting' plot in that aspect, reminder that she full-on reversed her own impossible-to-escape-NTR-cliche-situation, and she's actually used the brothel thing to fully escape Hebishima's clutches (Plus while it's still working under the dumb-logic of Fujino's universe that "doing these things in VR don't count unlike IRL", it was basically stated she both picked her clients and never went beyond minor service somehow, lol). Liz is just trying and failing to be an evil mastermind while flip-flopping between being a 'friend' and a jealous bitch willing to help an ugly bastard steal her best friend just so she can in turns steal her boyfriend, and the only reason neither Kirito nor Asuna have realized is because Fujino has cut their IQ to less than a tenth of what they would usually be XP
I mean, "VR not being real" is very different in Suguhas case, for her it's just a tool she uses to her own benefit, she's fully aware what and why she's doing it. In her case it's true, it's not real prostitution. Asuna on the other side got manipulated to this, which directly pushes her more towards Inoda.
Sorry if I didn't explain myself correctly, I was talking about how weak/BS that excuse feels when used in an SAO game and applied to the SAO cast, because one key point of all of their characters through the entire series, and of the series itself really, is how everything that happens in VR is just as real and valid as the real world XD Maybe for people who don't know or care about SAO is easier to handwave, but if you know it even vaguely it just feels like the most forced part of the whole NTR-verse plot, that's all :3
- Apr 10, 2023
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NOT looking for what is rational and correct in an NTR game is like asking an orange tree for a pear, everyone makes mistakes that for the rest of us will seem stupid as simple as that, although FUJINO has ALWAYS dedicated itself to at least giving you an idea and context of the game. because it came to that and he does it well, and about liz we already know how she will end up disappointed in cuckito and will end up with one more bitch from inoda, I think the administrator will end up the same somehow inoda will get to her
Ah the curse of knowing what should happen. I don't think these characters here ever expressed "VR is as real as the real world" mentality but we all assume they would. Knowing so much about the characters really does not enhance the experience. If this game was set in the proper canon, I imagine Kirito would be rocking Asuna's sugary world and Yui would not let Inoda anywhere near Asuna.