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Good ..is that how you win all the argument?? By being adamant and no logic? You do know Leon and Alan are more experienced computer wiz lol but your justification is next level that Ana as an intern is better computer wiz than both of them hence she has more information about the company and she has dissociative personality disorder...and she likes Alan that's why she is X..hats off.
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It's funny. You can't fathom how the condition could make everything in the game fit, so you resort to hating the guy who does.
I'm not arguing. I'm stating my theory, you disagree, GREAT! Disagree!
Why be angry because I don't agree with you and you don't understand my reason for not agreeing?
I'm not arguing. I'm stating my theory, you disagree, GREAT! Disagree!
Why be angry because I don't agree with you and you don't understand my reason for not agreeing?
I disagree from the beginning because it was illogical...and that's what I was trying to tell you why it was illogical as per whatever has been told in the story so far..but you are staying adamant lol so I have to lose argument with you lol I am not angry ..I am more like there's no point to discuss it with you because your supporting statements are illogical kinda situation lol . Like if I say Leon is Superman that's why he is X..will you believe me?
Look the story is far from over. Other than knowing that Leon is a bad guy, his character is still a mystery. We don't know if he is trying to ruin Alan by going after Clara because he is a bully or because he has another hidden agenda or because he really wants Clara.
So far only Alan's backstory has been revealed and Clara's briefly hinted. We also got some hints on Anna's past in latest update. So its obvious that the author intends to reveal more and more about the characters as story progresses and whenever its necessary. Leon also mentioned his mother died of heartbreak or something because of his father. No more details mentioned on that so far. We also know he has a sister who is still a mystery.
It wouldn't make sense to reveal everything about the characters right away. It takes away the mystery and becomes boring. Otherwise we would have got Leon's pov too.
X could be cooperating with Leon for all we know and it could explain why X is cooperating with Anna. But X is also definitely going after whatever Specter is holding and rest comes after.
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Thanks to those who replied. I'll probably give it a go when I get the time (at least til the cheating part to see if IMO it feels right). Seems to me there are a few plot holes already. I'm guessing the whole note from dev about "winning" has to be about saving the world and possibly getting revenge on the ones doing the manipulating. From what I've been reading it seems almost everyone is at least trying to manipulate the couple. So by my reckoning stopping the bad guys, getting revenge and walking away from everyone involved seems to be the main "win" path. I can only see saving the marriage as the cuck route(to me that's not an option). Once trust is betrayed there is nothing left to base any personal relationship between the couple on. If Anne is trying to split them up she is just as bad as X (someone who can't be trusted). It will be a while before I can get to play this unless I jump it above a bunch of others so maybe if any other updates come up it may change my mind.
I see alot of talk and speculation about who X can be. Going only by what I have seen here on the forums unless it is someone not yet introduced I would have to go with Leon. Despite the call early on, he could have had someone else make the call to throw suspicion off of himself and to make him look like a pawn. For those who say his family already got what they wanted from Alan, he still wants his wife and/or to keep his life in ruins. Anne could possibly be his "hidden" sister and they could be working together. Which would go even further into ruining the marriage aspect. A group working together and using only a single name to throw agencies off their trail is possible and makes it easier to play the pawn part. The messages from X could be them telling each other key info to further their plans. Leon knowing and telling Anne when to open the door for the kiss to be seen. Anne wanting the details in a diary for evidence to show Alan. Not sure how many of you saw the original Scream movie but if you have you can see why more than one would work better in throwing others off their trail and keep them looking for the "mastermind". Honestly it's probably too early in the story to really tell. I'm just throwing out a hypothesis that nobody seems to have mentioned yet. Again I have not played any of it yet this is just from what I have read here on the forums.
To go with another option X could also be Clara's boss wanting her to actually be one of the best field agents and not retire to the family life or whatever was supposed to happen after this mission. I mean that's one of the biggest plot holes I have so far is how many field agents/spies/assassins have ever had a family or significant other? It's a liability for any operative in the field much less a "top field agent".
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I am not saying to reveal who the X is...but atleast they could have shown some background story like clara had some boy who loved her but she left him for Alan because he was rich that time....or clara and Alan mission killed some highest gang member...you know something negative about their background where it is understandable that someone is trying to ruin marriage....he told everything good about them and they love each other even if Alan is unable to satisfy clara physically , she loves him...and their background is also pure....and all of a sudden someone is trying to seperate them desperately since this mission only not during previous missions...they don't want to kill them or blow their cover or need money but just trying to seperate them.. that's why it's illogical..no matter x identity is hidden but atleast he could have shown who they might have hurt in past or someone from their parents might have hurt. That would have made better sense.
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No, you don't see the logic for whatever reason, but you insist that unless I agree with your faulty reasoning I'm being obstinant. I'm not. I stated very clearly how Anna could easily be X but you think I should give up and say she can't be because you can't grasp the reasoning. You don't have to lose anything. You also don't have to convince me of anything.
You can, however, step away from the keyboard and calm down.
I am not convincing you..I just said whatever story shows...if Anna is X then she should receive message from X during first mission too but no one see that too..you also don't see Leon as Black Adam /superman so it's not my fault lol
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There is so much we don't know yet in this story. You can all be right and I bring yet another candidate for X. Clara's father! We know little about him and the little only from their point of view. He is a criminal, has been able to make plenty of contacts in prison, AND, Clara hates him! And really and deeply! – Something could have been there that he was also on a campaign of revenge. Just a funny thought.
Good job! This is the latest version! It remains only to find out where and when the prisoner met and made a deal with Leon. Maybe on the contrary it was Leon who found the prisoner! Too few facts are known.
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Good job! This is the latest version! It remains only to find out where and when the prisoner met and made a deal with Leon. Maybe on the contrary it was Leon who found the prisoner! Too few facts are known.
So Mr. X may be Klara's hated father. Who decided to take revenge on his daughter with the hands of Loana and Anna
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Is Leon burning for revenge after his mother died of a broken heart? And he wants to see Alan do the same when he takes his beloved Clara away from him?
It is known about Clara's father that he is a pathetic, insignificant person and a bitter drunkard! He turned Clara's childhood into hell! This dad doesn't have the brains to successfully do such things!
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Maybe Klara's father harmed someone in prison. And this gangster decided to take revenge on his daughter by adopting the pseudonym X?
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Why does she have to see it? Why is it so necessary that we see a scene of her getting the message? How does it make it impossible for her to be X if we don't see that scene? Could it be that the Dev, simply wanted to focus on the others then and work Anna's mental condition into the narrative as the story progresses? You're hanging a lot of your argument on the fact that you missed seeing her get one message that really doesnothing to disprove her potential involvement.
Leon is a jerk that has his own scheme and, as intricate as it is, it can still be inferior to a crazy woman who has also bent her whole life on developing her capabilities to extract revenge from people she feels have wronged her. She's the true evil genius wrapped up in the facade of a sweet face and lace.
This argument is over friend. If you insist on continuing to harrass me about this I'll put you on ignore.
yall gotta chill. getting pressed over a VN is just...
relax! dont project too much and go outside! because at the end of the day, we're all here to have a decent, healthy discussion. well, thats aside from enjoying the story ofc, which i dont have to mention as its so obvious, hopefully. not to attack anybody that has different point of view from each and everyone.
relax! dont project too much and go outside! because at the end of the day, we're all here to have a decent, healthy discussion. well, thats aside from enjoying the story ofc, which i dont have to mention as its so obvious, hopefully. not to attack anybody that has different point of view from each and everyone.
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Agreed! 100%yall gotta chill. getting pressed over a VN is just...
relax! dont project too much and go outside! because at the end of the day, we're all here to have a decent, healthy discussion. well, thats aside from enjoying the story ofc, which i dont have to mention as its so obvious, hopefully. not to attack anybody that has different point of view from each and everyone.
8-9/10
(v0.5a)
Good game, that is becoming better the more you play.
Author's improvements through the life of this game are incredible.
Although this score is for the second half of the game - not the first one.
...but please, no remake.
Remakes. Are. Sin.
Art:
+ Great models. 10/10. Especially love the FMC.
+ Good environments.
- But something's off with the scenes. They shouldn't feel this plain - like staring at a white wall - not with such good models.
I think it's the flaccid lighting. I guess it's one of these times when the scenes would really benefit from the colored shadows - contrasting with the main light source.
Story:
...actually, the same as art.
Not mentioning an overly stretched intro (no, it's not a build-up - you can deliver the same with much less time and word count; or even better - without it at all - just throw the team into the enemy layer and deliver their history during the hot sex scenes)
But other than that!
+ The story is very good.
Motivations and obstacles, that characters have to juggle, are believable and complex - and they feed directly into the hot sex scenes. And into promises on them.
- But the delivery is, well - like art. Flaccid?
The words are good - and hot at times - but there's too little contrast between different sentences.
So you read one sentence. Then the next one - and it'll have the same tone, the same emotion, the same thought.
And the words are good. But then you read the next one. And the next one. And there's almost no difference.
Like staring at a white wall.
Weird feeling.
Choices:
Some - irrelevant.
+ Some are good. With several foreshadowings, and when you make a choice - it's a choice of a kink (in a porn game! shocking).
"You into femdom?" Yes/No.
Without taking you out of the story. Well blended into the narrative. The choice that is relevant to the player's personality and the core meaning of the porn game.
From now on this is literally my golden standard of game choices.
- But some choices are... "You want more content? Act like a piece of shit. You want it, don't you, you fricking fuck. You want this content, you slime of a human?"
No, I don't want more content. That's exactly why I downloaded this fucking game.
Jesus 'Fucking' Christ.
So in conclusion:
"Why's the score so high if it's that controversial?"
Cos the sex scenes are hot.
Cos the story's funneling seamlessly into the sex scenes.
Cos characters (and their obstacles) are complex enough - so the tension in the sex scenes is equally complex and entertaining. Without it becoming just stale ass porking.
Cos the author improved an incredible amount through the course of this single game.
And I'm looking for more.
P.s.:
...and cos I even learned something new about the game design after this game. Yeah.
(v0.5a)
Good game, that is becoming better the more you play.
Author's improvements through the life of this game are incredible.
Although this score is for the second half of the game - not the first one.
...but please, no remake.
Remakes. Are. Sin.
Art:
+ Great models. 10/10. Especially love the FMC.
+ Good environments.
- But something's off with the scenes. They shouldn't feel this plain - like staring at a white wall - not with such good models.
I think it's the flaccid lighting. I guess it's one of these times when the scenes would really benefit from the colored shadows - contrasting with the main light source.
Story:
...actually, the same as art.
Not mentioning an overly stretched intro (no, it's not a build-up - you can deliver the same with much less time and word count; or even better - without it at all - just throw the team into the enemy layer and deliver their history during the hot sex scenes)
But other than that!
+ The story is very good.
Motivations and obstacles, that characters have to juggle, are believable and complex - and they feed directly into the hot sex scenes. And into promises on them.
- But the delivery is, well - like art. Flaccid?
The words are good - and hot at times - but there's too little contrast between different sentences.
So you read one sentence. Then the next one - and it'll have the same tone, the same emotion, the same thought.
And the words are good. But then you read the next one. And the next one. And there's almost no difference.
Like staring at a white wall.
Weird feeling.
Choices:
Some - irrelevant.
+ Some are good. With several foreshadowings, and when you make a choice - it's a choice of a kink (in a porn game! shocking).
"You into femdom?" Yes/No.
Without taking you out of the story. Well blended into the narrative. The choice that is relevant to the player's personality and the core meaning of the porn game.
From now on this is literally my golden standard of game choices.
- But some choices are... "You want more content? Act like a piece of shit. You want it, don't you, you fricking fuck. You want this content, you slime of a human?"
No, I don't want more content. That's exactly why I downloaded this fucking game.
Jesus 'Fucking' Christ.
So in conclusion:
"Why's the score so high if it's that controversial?"
Cos the sex scenes are hot.
Cos the story's funneling seamlessly into the sex scenes.
Cos characters (and their obstacles) are complex enough - so the tension in the sex scenes is equally complex and entertaining. Without it becoming just stale ass porking.
Cos the author improved an incredible amount through the course of this single game.
And I'm looking for more.
P.s.:
...and cos I even learned something new about the game design after this game. Yeah.
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