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It's from Gallow's Edge, which is the event that follows Lavender's Green. But I mean, could be, who knows.
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Speaking of Kirin and Lavender's Green, she's likely still convinced that Sensei raped Molly back then:
Kirin - "Show me the you who lures innocent, drunk girls away from parties and...fucks them before they even know what's happening."
- "All this 'will they, won't they' bullshit is getting really tiring and if I have to hear her vent about it one more time, I'm going to knock her unconscious and let Sensei have his way with her while she's asleep."
- "Oh. Shit. Whoops. Probably shouldn't have said that in front of you, huh? Not trying to poke at a sore spot or anything."
Molly - "What...exactly do you mean by-"
And Kirin wants to go down on a white girl:
Molly - "Threesome...Thursdays?"
Kirin - "You're invited too, of course. I've always fantasized about going down on a white girl."
Molly - "..."
So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.
Kirin - "Show me the you who lures innocent, drunk girls away from parties and...fucks them before they even know what's happening."- "All this 'will they, won't they' bullshit is getting really tiring and if I have to hear her vent about it one more time, I'm going to knock her unconscious and let Sensei have his way with her while she's asleep."
- "Oh. Shit. Whoops. Probably shouldn't have said that in front of you, huh? Not trying to poke at a sore spot or anything."
Molly - "What...exactly do you mean by-"
Molly - "Threesome...Thursdays?"Kirin - "You're invited too, of course. I've always fantasized about going down on a white girl."
Molly - "..."
So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.
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Molly has a lot of self-esteem issues, so I guess it could go either way. Maybe she embraces perversion only in the safety of Akira's solo embrace or go full pervert.
I'd also like to use this opportunity to talk a bit about Molly (that I forgot to mention on my post on Lavender's Green).
One thing I forgot to point out that I found replaying her chain during Lavender's Blue and Green is that Molly's perspective on what happened is very different from Akira's.
Recap: Molly had been in love with Rin and suffering for it, Akira finds her masturbating, then she forces a kiss on Rin during christmas, then she suffers some more, then she explodes when Otoha goes to watch their d&d session, then she cries a lot with Akira, then she gets advice from Osako and that leads to her assaulting Rin just before Rin's confession to Otoha, then she undresses and blushes a lot with Akira in her room, then Akira offers himself for her to experiment (and she kinda accepts it), then you can choose her as the the winner of best costume, then Lavender's Green happened.
From Molly's perspective, Akira has been nothing but a good friend to her, and one that she accepted as a partner to experiment in the future. Also, Molly has assaulted Rin multiple times now. And Molly, more than anything, fears losing another person that she cares about due to a moment of hormones taking over. Especially for something that if she was awake she'd probably would have done anyway (as she puts it in recent updates).
Recap: Molly had been in love with Rin and suffering for it, Akira finds her masturbating, then she forces a kiss on Rin during christmas, then she suffers some more, then she explodes when Otoha goes to watch their d&d session, then she cries a lot with Akira, then she gets advice from Osako and that leads to her assaulting Rin just before Rin's confession to Otoha, then she undresses and blushes a lot with Akira in her room, then Akira offers himself for her to experiment (and she kinda accepts it), then you can choose her as the the winner of best costume, then Lavender's Green happened.
From Molly's perspective, Akira has been nothing but a good friend to her, and one that she accepted as a partner to experiment in the future. Also, Molly has assaulted Rin multiple times now. And Molly, more than anything, fears losing another person that she cares about due to a moment of hormones taking over. Especially for something that if she was awake she'd probably would have done anyway (as she puts it in recent updates).
So after a 2 year+ break where I thought the game was just nuked from orbit, I finally caught up last night. I have my own theories, but would love to see what smarter people have put together that I have not. Is there some Matt Patt level breakdown of the lore so far somewhere or large info dumps from random users I should look at for commonly agreed upon lore or themes?
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Search for stuff from DeSkel15, fdsasef_p, Bingoogus, and Moonflare. They always have good lore conversations, and (most of) their past comments are worth a read.
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Gonna thank you for the mention given that I'm new here, and would like to point out that DeSkel15 really goes the extra mile, and I can only wish I had the dedication to transcribe every quote as he does - cause it really helps when reading on the mobile.
you could also line up some topics or specific questions and we can all create a conversation from there. Past week has been a lot about Nodoka in general (given Nodokathon) - and we could all use another topic.
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Sure. Here is one. Why do yall think that Maya is related to Hope and not the wire God? (From what I am skimming through DeSkel15s messages right now) Please bear with me I am low IQ so I could be totally off or missed stuff but I thought she was an offspring of the wire god as: The weird council of Mayas all have hex names which is machine like, she doesnt go to the old district where I am pretty sure the machine god is buried though also tied with her thing with Noriko, lots of Maya nailed to crosses and other things paralleling Jesus and being the child of a god, she was threatened to be rebooted in the scare room by the machine god whom I thought was being mimiced by hope or the other god to fuck with her, and her name is Maya a programming language.
My thought was she was a part of the machine god that broke away. Which I recall a big thing was saying the machine god in the exposition dump was it never actively participated, at least before, and only tried to correct things like all the errors Akira sees when shit gets too messed up it steps in. Sending an avatar out to reset the universe is pretty on brand of only stepping in when things are wrong.
Then the Romeo and Juliet/star loves metaphor with her and protag, I was pretty sure Akira is a spawn of Hope literally trying to breed in a new generation of worshipers. Which would then set him up on the Montague and her the... uhh other one. I slept through lit class.
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No one keeps track of Sensei's penis size as thoroughly as you.The fuck you mentionin' me for, i'm a total dunce...
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Sensei's dick size is part of the game lore tooThe fuck you mentionin' me for, i'm a total dunce...
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Not if it's not in-game anymore...
Compare it to the Horsecock Maki sells...
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In regards to the earlier topic of what exactly Maya did in the past that led to his second disappearence;
Noriko in her first hallway event drops the line: "Oh, right. I forgot the public part was the first link in the chain of events that lead to us being seperated once more." And I think there might be more stuff implying something similar later on, but I can't remember specifics.
I've always had the distinct impression that whatever happened almost totally outed Akira's relationship with Maya and forced him to disappear for a while (and potentially made him go into one of his catatonic states?). Honestly I've had my suspicions he was totally outed in the past, but I have no clue how that could have been covered up well enough for him to become an actual teacher.
Noriko in her first hallway event drops the line: "Oh, right. I forgot the public part was the first link in the chain of events that lead to us being seperated once more." And I think there might be more stuff implying something similar later on, but I can't remember specifics.
I've always had the distinct impression that whatever happened almost totally outed Akira's relationship with Maya and forced him to disappear for a while (and potentially made him go into one of his catatonic states?). Honestly I've had my suspicions he was totally outed in the past, but I have no clue how that could have been covered up well enough for him to become an actual teacher.
Might be a mildly controversial take, but I think Noriko may have a skeleton or two in her closet we don't yet know about as well. I don't think she's as manipulative as Maya, but I'm not sure I'm totally ready to take everything she says about Maya as the total truth yet. I think it's just as likely that Maya intentionally tried to fuck up Akira's life to keep him dependent on her as she just made a huge mistake that almost ruined everything. Noriko might not even be trying to be outright deceptive, she might be missing critical information, or the situation is even more complicated.
I've been tossing around the idea it's Maya's fault in that she did whatever she did to get at Noriko in some way, but something went wrong and whatever she was actually trying to do almost got them caught. Just a wild guess that might be born from me trying to still both-sides the situation into something where they're kinda both telling the truth on a subconscious level. I've probably still got an ingrained skepticism towards Noriko from my first playthrough, even if my impression of her has totally changed and I think she's somehow one of the most normal characters in the game lmao.
I've been tossing around the idea it's Maya's fault in that she did whatever she did to get at Noriko in some way, but something went wrong and whatever she was actually trying to do almost got them caught. Just a wild guess that might be born from me trying to still both-sides the situation into something where they're kinda both telling the truth on a subconscious level. I've probably still got an ingrained skepticism towards Noriko from my first playthrough, even if my impression of her has totally changed and I think she's somehow one of the most normal characters in the game lmao.
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Both Am I Okay and Akira seem to have a job to fix things (this is said about Akira multiple times, and about Am I Okay on the Happy Event where she's tied to the machine), what that entails exactly is debatable, but it does seem that both of them have a purpose. One big mystery to everything you're saying though is that we just don't know enough about Maya's origin.
Pre-reset Maya seems to have been a girl that fled from home after an implied sexual abuse (or threat of sexual abuse), and found her way to become Akira's adopted daughter/girlfriend around the time Noriko was being tutored along many unnamed girls. Between that time and the resets, she acquired her shrine maiden outfit.
During resets, we know she doesn't reset the world herself, but prays to someone in order to reset it. Which would, one would assume, be the same god of her shrine. Maya doesn't seem to have extra knowledge outside of what she lived though (no divine inspiration like Yasu, nor being guided by Himawari).
Outside of the timeline, we have multiple appearances of Am I Okay, and the obvious question here is: is she our Maya? or has she ever been our Maya? It can get really confusing because it can range from Akira's real body be the one sitting on a chair in the room with the clocks, with Am I Okay by his side - to some of the Happy Events be from the future or past in relation to the game we're playing (Our Maya could turn into Am I Okay, and Himawari's presence could point to time travel).
Pre-reset Maya seems to have been a girl that fled from home after an implied sexual abuse (or threat of sexual abuse), and found her way to become Akira's adopted daughter/girlfriend around the time Noriko was being tutored along many unnamed girls. Between that time and the resets, she acquired her shrine maiden outfit.
During resets, we know she doesn't reset the world herself, but prays to someone in order to reset it. Which would, one would assume, be the same god of her shrine. Maya doesn't seem to have extra knowledge outside of what she lived though (no divine inspiration like Yasu, nor being guided by Himawari).
Outside of the timeline, we have multiple appearances of Am I Okay, and the obvious question here is: is she our Maya? or has she ever been our Maya? It can get really confusing because it can range from Akira's real body be the one sitting on a chair in the room with the clocks, with Am I Okay by his side - to some of the Happy Events be from the future or past in relation to the game we're playing (Our Maya could turn into Am I Okay, and Himawari's presence could point to time travel).
There is also a lot to be said about Maya and possibily Ami being the children of stars (I forgot the proper term), which is a topic from early in the happy events that made a comeback with Nao-chan in update 0.40.
Anyway, it's a lot to cover and not enough evidence at the moment unfortunately.
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What are Himawari's motives? Why did she even guide Ayane in the beginning...
And most importantly... why did you delete half the text
And most importantly... why did you delete half the text
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Because it was super confusing lol - the first part mostly went into detail about the possibility of time-travel, which is a topic that maybe should have its own post and at the moment is kind of weak.And most importantly... why did you delete half the text
There is an event called Loxosceles Reclusa (Noriko's event), which is Akira's first date with Noriko, where she talks a lot about their past with Maya, and most of it is redacted. But, she mentions that after the tutoring sessions were over, she once saw Akira walking with someone on the old district, she ran to finally be with him again, but that the person he was with did something on the streets with him. It could very well be what you're suggesting, and that Maya maybe outted their relationship so that they would have no option but to flee that place.
This would also fit with new Maya's declaration of "doing her job perfectly" in terms of hiding their relationship. Since it would forever be something that she has to compensate for the previous blunder (perhaps intentional).
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